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Old 2009-04-07, 02:47 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Interesting. If you look at trades # 10 and 11, order #'s 19 and 20 from year 2006. They had just passed a major loss and doubled up on the position size as per the RecoveryMode. Trade #10 was for 8.39 lots, followed by trade #11 for 4.40 lots. Both of these trades were open simultaneously for over an hour, while the account balance was listed as $12083.40... Obviouly they are running at more than 100:1 leverage or this would not even be possible, even so, this is an extremely high risk situation. And I'm sure there are more like it to find.

I have to wonder if these posted results arent doctored a bit to prevent blowing the account up. As was previously mentioned by BB, when they had a longer string of losses they didnt run the recovery mode. Easy to do with hindsight. Not so easy going forward. These user parameters, RecoveryMode and ReduceLots false, will take some thought before implementing.

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Old 2009-04-08, 12:57 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Does anyone know how to fix the error: 1000 on my live chart? I'm trading fine on my demo - up 6% on balance in 4 days of trading.

I tried following support's instructions to send screen dumps etc but their answer didn't really make sense to me. ****If you see any Error - your trading is stopped.****

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Old 2009-04-08, 05:10 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Maree43, it seems that the error 1000 must be quite common problem as it has been singled out in the latest e-mail from Megadroid team. As far as I can see this is authorization problem. At least it was showing on my chart, until I:
1) removed the ea ex4 and dll from their respective folders
2) replaced them with the original ex4 and dll
3) entered the required code in from the purchase receipt
The error disappeared then.
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Old 2009-04-08, 05:11 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I transferred it to FXDD account and it kicked off yesterday with 2 successfull trades.

As this is a live account I set the risk level to 0.

It means that it uses just the base LotSize of 0.1. I will let it this way for a couple of weeks and see the hit/loss ratio before increasing risk level.

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Old 2009-04-08, 09:25 AM   #45 (permalink)
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My live account took three MegaDroid trades last night. All winners. My demo account (d1) only took one which was also a winner

I will be increasing my risk on my live account from 5% to 10% for tonight's tradings.

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Old 2009-04-08, 09:27 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Interesting. If you look at trades # 10 and 11, order #'s 19 and 20 from year 2006. They had just passed a major loss and doubled up on the position size as per the RecoveryMode. Trade #10 was for 8.39 lots, followed by trade #11 for 4.40 lots. Both of these trades were open simultaneously for over an hour, while the account balance was listed as $12083.40... Obviouly they are running at more than 100:1 leverage or this would not even be possible, even so, this is an extremely high risk situation. And I'm sure there are more like it to find.

I have to wonder if these posted results arent doctored a bit to prevent blowing the account up. As was previously mentioned by BB, when they had a longer string of losses they didnt run the recovery mode. Easy to do with hindsight. Not so easy going forward. These user parameters, RecoveryMode and ReduceLots false, will take some thought before implementing.
Good points. When I first started backtesting and building trading systems (in stocks initially), I learned a few things the hard way. ALWAYS expect real-time drawdowns to be worse than backtested ones, and returns to be lower. Sometimes there are exceptions, but prepare for the worst. Even if you don't intentionally "cheat" on your backtests (and many EAs do), there are many subtle ways to artificially enhance your results in hindsight. If you're trading at risk levels that barely survived backtesting, you're in great danger going forward.

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Old 2009-04-08, 12:59 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I had Error 1000 pop up after installing the EA on anouther account. All I did was remove and reinstall the EA and it fixed it.



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My live account took three MegaDroid trades last night. All winners. My demo account (d1) only took one which was also a winner

I will be increasing my risk on my live account from 5% to 10% for tonight's tradings.

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Rick,

Is there a difference between these two accounts other than demo and live? I'm running on FXDD, both demo and live and they took the same two trades each last night. One from each strategy. From what I can determine looking at their posted results, the only way it can get additional trades is if it closes the first quickly. It seems to only have a two hour trading window.

The account that only took one trade. Do you know which strategy it was? Most likely the 10 pip conservative strategy, reference #337733. I'm also trying to determine if it has the internal filters to automaticaly limit more aggressive trades under certain circumstances. On their posted results they only show one trade Mon night, whereas I had two. I originaly thought it was manual intervention , but it now seems to be something else.

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Old 2009-04-08, 01:19 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I thought I had posted this here. But I was mistaken, I posted it on the FPA forum and the FAPT forum. However, I think its worth posting again.
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I've been running MegaDroid for a few days now, and my results, on a live account, are almost identical to what they show. Yesterday I had an additional trade to theirs, the strategy 2 also picked up a trade that they didnt show. I suspect that they had the aggresive setting turned off.

This robot appears to be a FAPT Scalper clone, with a few extras borrowed from other robots. If you review their posted trades for the past years you will quickly see that it doesnt trade at all hours, as they claimed. It trades in the exact same time window as FAPT. In fact Strategy 1, the more conservative strategy is pretty much identical to FAPT, and the only difference between this and the more aggressive strategy 2 is the Take Profit level. Strategy 1 takes profit at 5 pips, and strategy 2 takes profit at 15 pips, and these two strategies run simultaneously. Beyond this, I see no grounds for their claims of Artifical Inteligence Algorithms. All their trades are scalper style trades, during the same hours as FAPT. They do not switch from one strategy to anouther depending on market conditions, they simply eliminate the more aggressive, higher profit strategy, at times. And I suspect they often do this manualy.

Further, if you review back a few years you will find several instances where they seem to selectively employ their RecoveryMode. In instances where the EA has taken more than two full losses simultaneously the RecoveryMode is off. In instances where it has only taken one full loss the RecoveryMode is on, and even then there are instances where it placed two simultaneous orders following a major loss, the first at double position size and the second at regular position size. If you tally these two open orders, the total number of lots exceeds the account balance at 100:1 leverage . This is only possible at higher levels of leverage and even then its very questionable.

MegaDroid just seems to be a FAPT clone designed to run on the eurusd pair. It only places one trade per each strategy per night. The only difference between the two strategies is the take profit level, with the higher 15 pip take profit being the more aggressive setting. It doesnt take the small losses that FAPT takes, rather it closes most bad trades at 1 pip profit, therebye maintaining its high win ratio.

And there you have it. Its just a one horse wonder, anouther night scalper. I only does one thing, once per night, at one specific time, on one specific pair. (kind of like an old married couple). Its simply an amalgamation of the best from the best.

Not to complain to hard, it can be a money maker, just beware. To achieve their results they use a 30% risk setting. A couple of full losses at this level can decimate an account. If you run the RecoverMode and double position size after a loss, Martingale style, it could crush your account even quicker, likewise for using RecuceLots false.

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Old 2009-04-08, 04:20 PM   #49 (permalink)
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My feelings exactly. The first time I saw Megadroid it occured to me quite similar to FAPT. If you add to it heavy involvement of the FAPT authors in Megadroid marketing one can start wonder if they just do not want to sqeeze some more juice from an old lemon...

This way you can sell very narrowly customized FAPT clones again and again. Each of them will be quite cheap (less then 100$), but...
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Old 2009-04-08, 04:48 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Some folks on Facebook are posting that this is similar to other robots:

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Seems to be the same guys as Accura-FX Limited
I think the Same guys as..http://www.forex-autocash-robot.com
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Also, I think its the same as http://www.forex-auto-scalper.net/
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I tried sending an email earlier today to them asking for an investor password or proof the system works with a forward test report.. The email bounced backed with an unknown user message.. I also went to dnsstuff . com and looked up their web information and it is the same web info as the 3 other ea's mentioned above.. looks like forex-autocash, forex-autoscalper, fapturbo and mega-droid web sites are all done from the same servers.. dont know if that means they are all the same people, but certainly the sites are all hosted by the same server.. Whats the odds of 4 ea's all being hosted together??? There must be 2,000,000 or more web servers out there.. But these 4 ea's are all on the same server.. I came to the conclusion last year that there are 2 or maybe 3 guys out there making most of these scam ea's.. but they use different "names' when making the sites.. And really if you had a really good ea would you only charge $97.00 for it.. Just my thoughts.. Jim
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